This is so incredibly stupid. This will stop me shopping on Trade Me for sure. I'll spend my money elsewhere. 

Yeah for the record, what I detest about this is that I have NO control over my money. So I made a sale this morning and it gets paid to Ping. I transfer it out only to be told it will take a few days.  I don't want my money sitting in a Trade Me account for one. So if I can't use my money as I want to and am beholden to you and/or Ping to get hold of it so I can use it, tell me Trade Me - what is the point in casual sellers selling with you? We're now a bunch of mini loan sharks where you have our money for a short while making interest off it or Ping or whomever, and then, once we've tran...

Replying to honornz247, You've raised good questions in your earlier comment. In your latter comment, I feel the same way as you do, and I would rather not be pushed into using Ping. I have used it before and I didn't really feel it was a good experience for a casual seller just selling stuff that I no longer want - I don't have a huge cashflow , so the time it took for PIng money to be downloaded to my account so I can pay fees and book couriers was cumbersome and annoying. I had to log in many times to check up and see what was going on, so it just doesn't streamline the whole selling exp...

jpicard You seem to have changed your tune a bit. Earlier on you were critical of Ping, now you seem to be onboard with it - almost selling it to us. You are of course, allowed to change your mind, but it stands out a bit. Honestly though, if a scammer is going to try all of that to get someone's money, then why purchase online anywhere for anything? We might as well go back to instore shopping. Why would anyone want to use their credit card or do a bank transfer to pay for anything? After all, given your post and the hazards of it's not just TM that's a 'risk' ... maybe platforms like TM a...

I reckon. They didn't have to do that at all. Q Card is still valid and they're not cutting anyone off anytime soon. 

Wow I can't believe you've just said that!! Q Card have not notified customers of being 'phased out' nor have other retailers stopped supporting it. At this point in time, Q Card is still viable and until we, the customer, are notified otherwise by Q Card themselves, then it's irresponsible of you to deny its use and to suggest we change to a different card. 

Yeah cos it's so cool to wait a whole day rather than an hour or two.  You're trying hard to sell it, but either way you look at it Ping is a rubbish platform for a casual seller. I'd rather pay a success fee any day!

Callum - I have used both manual and automatic, it does not make an iota of difference to how long it takes to get the money from Ping to our bank accounts.

So there was a whole thread regarding us complaining about the new look trade me, but I can't seem to find it so am I to assume that TM is censoring the complaints now? A couple of months on now and nothing seems to have changed. I just spend the last 15 minutes trying to quick relist 3 auctions. Each time it failed yet it relisted one that I was asking it not to. Far out man, this is enough to send a sane person crazy. Why can't we see the seller statistics with these auctions? Apparently NO ONE is looking at my auctions, but if I click on them, then the stats say differently. Why can we n...

So Trade Me, you're telling me this was Q Cards update? Or was it yours? Because if it's yours, then you've just unilaterally inconvenienced 1000s and 1000s of Q Card holders for what? For an upgrade??? This is outrageous and not the least bit bad practice on your part. Sort it out and reinstate the ability to use Q Card!!