Hi Callum Thanks for your reply .   Yes I did pay by ping,I think the scam part is they drag it out for more than 30 days by delaying sending emails with tracking and saying technical glitches etc so by that time you cant claim back on ping . I also think you are right about them being very poor traders and plenty of feedback saying no item arrived or did arrive after 8 weeks from Australia which is crazy because I just had 5 items arrive from Temu within 6 days (2 being the weekend lol)   Anyways I remember your name from the good old days of TM message boards so glad to see you are still ...