Exactly !!!!!!, Buyers still have to make a manual Bank deposit, Multi buyers whom have selected the cheapest shipping or no shipping at all still have to make a Manual deposit, same as cart for us small sellers who have to pay actual shipping etc. need to still ask buyers to pay correct shipping, no it does not work for all,  Yes, they cannot see the bigger picture at all, forcing ping is not going to keep members, the days of $1 reserves with no fees are gone?, because you will get stung with Ping fees, so no longer viable now, as Intrade, if buyer selecting shipping yes you had fees on $...

One reason I hate Ping and will never use after-pay, I sell low cost 2nd hand Non Essential items, making it too easy for some people to get into debt paying via Ping etc. and not Completing and after pay payments, it adds to their debt, this is one reason some shops have now done away with offering After-pay, people using it then cannot make payments, If they do not have the money to pay via bank deposit Only, then they should not be buying non essential items, Trade Me are aiding these people get into even more debt by forcing ping in their face making it too easy to buy non essential 2nd...

I have noticed a lot of constructive answers in here getting thumbs down as numbers are down from yesterday and earlier today, so someone may think it is all good?, so if they think it is all good, they may be ones open to abuse the system if implemented, which I hope is not, as others say very open to abuse, which is so true, Just hope Trade Me realize this & can the whole idea and concentrate on fixing current issues, like the Trade Me address E-Mails with no addresses and to arrange pick up?, when pick up is not an option as seller does not allow pick ups, had 5 in last few days, this ha...

Hi Debbie,  In this case you bid agreeing to shipping on Auction and formed a Contract when you bid or used the Buy now, It is sellers responsibility to have correct shipping on their auction including Rural shipping costs, as some sellers have a flat rate which includes rural, so your point of view, it could have been a flat rate as no mention of Rural at all?, If seller does not make it clear they cannot come back and ask for more, They should have Urban Shipping and & Rural Shipping too, which they did not,  Seller needs to think about their own actions and their error, Seller is wrong, ...

manna7 Yes, this enforced Ping is a sham, been here 21 years, well over 22,000 trades, 100% positive feedback, only offered Bank deposit?, No disputes filed against me except a false non delivery, where buyer admitted they did have parcel after doing a inquiry with courier, Why are we getting treated with disrespect and thrown in same basket as the bad eggs, What is the problem?, no respect to loyal long time members anymore,  a lot of my customers will not use ping or cannot as institutions like schools Kindy's etc. where 2 people must sign off a bank deposit, Yes, Trade Me is killing us ...

Callum          Another thing is for combining, you still have to ask buyers to pay outstanding shipping, as they have used the $0.00 Combining option, as some parcels become way oversize for shipping they have paid, even via paying with Ping and if it is outside my regular couriers zone they need to pay for other courier, which can be higher shipping cost also, Some of us are small time stay at home sellers not big businesses, so cannot cover the extra shipping costs, otherwise giving stuff away for free?,  There are so many reasons to keep payment Instructions and ability for buyers to ma...

I hate it also, Why?, the changes they are making are having big Negative impacts, but they cannot see outside the Box?,

Callum        Even if they make shipping mandatory on auctions, There are so many variables, where we will still need to provide bank details, It will not work completely removing that option, Please you need to think outside the box and look at the bigger picture?, Take your blinkers off, as you do not see the real bigger picture out there, all the different variables / Scenarios, We are all not like you, we are all different sellers, selling different stuff in different ways, stay at home people/Nana's/Grandads etc. just trying to make an honest living, we are all not a big businesses t...

  Callum You have completely missed the whole point, look outside at the bigger picture, I know as a seller I am covered but that is not the point I am making at all, So you are happy to offer Ping After pay etc. knowing some people will be unable to pay and get them selves into further debt using a credit card?, even though you have your money you're happy?, Sorry but some sellers need to think outside the box, yes some just want easy money regardless of harm it can be causing others,  Hence I only offered Bank deposit, plus don't need the ping fees either, Buyers, they either have the ...

greg23 A good majority of my customers have been selecting cash to make a bank deposit, since the change, buyers are realizing they can still make bank deposits, if you sent out payment Instructions as per normal, after winning an auction via auction, not Buy now, as I had been running weeks with no Buy Now's, so no cart, to stop people automatically using Ping and Cart, yes it has paid off, Only got a few items up this week with Buy Now's, Items unlikely to need to be combined, so less chance of cart being used with forced Ping, last 54 sales only 5 with Paid with Ping. one I refunded, be...